{"id":25234,"date":"2021-09-16T07:00:38","date_gmt":"2021-09-16T12:00:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/?p=25234"},"modified":"2021-09-15T09:10:05","modified_gmt":"2021-09-15T14:10:05","slug":"heavy-metal-thunder-mouse-beyond-thunder-city-an-interview-with-derek-a-kamal-shoreless-skies-publishing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/heavy-metal-thunder-mouse-beyond-thunder-city-an-interview-with-derek-a-kamal-shoreless-skies-publishing\/","title":{"rendered":"Heavy Metal Thunder Mouse: Beyond Thunder City: An Interview With Derek A. Kamal (Shoreless Skies Publishing)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>At <a href=\"https:\/\/www.enworld.org\/threads\/check-out-the-scene-at-atlantas-andocon.665268\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AndoCon 2018<\/a>, I played Derek A. Kamal\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/product\/220180\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse&amp;affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Heavy Metal Thunder Mouse<\/i><\/a>. Playing as a mouse on a motorcycle turned out to be a lot of fun. I wasn\u2019t the only one to think so as the project won an award. Now it\u2019s back with an amazing creative team offering an anthology of settings for the game. Derek was kind enough to answer my questions about the game, the creators, and why they make this project a bit of a reunion.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><b>EGG EMBRY (EGG): It\u2019s good to talk to you again, Derek! You\u2019re back with more <\/b><\/span><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/shorelessskies\/hmtm-beyond-thunder-city\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><i><b>Heavy Metal Thunder Mouse<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><b>! What have you got for us this time? <\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>DEREK A. KAMAL (DEREK)<\/b>: Well this go round we\u2019re loading up our bikes and moving away from the original setting of Thunder City. One could say that we are taking things <i>beyond<\/i>! The current Kickstarter is for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/shorelessskies\/hmtm-beyond-thunder-city\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Beyond Thunder City<\/i><\/a>, that being a setting book of five new worlds for folks to take their mice to and I think rules. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-02.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-25232 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-02-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-02-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-02-678x509.jpg 678w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-02-326x245.jpg 326w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-02-80x60.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-02.jpg 680w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>EGG: For those that don\u2019t know, what is <\/b><\/span><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/shorelessskies\/hmtm-beyond-thunder-city\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><i><b>Heavy Metal Thunder Mouse<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span><\/a><b> <\/b><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><b>(HMTM)<\/b><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><b>?<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>DEREK<\/b>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\">HMTM is a <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Fate<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> RPG in which mice and their motorcycle clubs get into tremendous adventures. It is <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>The Mouse and the Motorcycle<\/i><\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">casually shaking hands with <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Sons of Anarchy<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">, while maintaining its cute demeanor. Maybe it would be better if I start saying it\u2019s <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>The Mouse and the Motorcycle<\/i><\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">meets <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Easy Rider<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8230; <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Anyway, players create their very own mouse, customize their bikes, then found their club together. From then on it\u2019s high speed, pint sized, Saturday morning cartoon action!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG: HMTM is an award winning game, correct? <\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>DEREK<\/b>: Correct! We released the game back in 2018 and that year HMTM won the <a href=\"https:\/\/ennie-awards.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Silver ENnie<\/a> for Best Family Product. I\u2019m still very proud of that! I often wear the medal to work. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG: For this anthology, you brought back original HMTM artist, Jacob Hunt. Who is he joined by?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>DEREK<\/b>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\">Jacob remains the<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> sole visual artist on <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Beyond Thunder City<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">. In fact, I held off on this project until his schedule freed up because I absolutely love what he did with the core book and wanted to make sure he brought the same sensibility to this book. Jacob worked with great intensity and personal grit in order to nail down an original style for HMTM; our mice are anthropomorphic but still look natural, unlike weird Biker Mice from Mars He-men. It\u2019s very important in achieving the vibe. I\u2019m glad he\u2019s around to do t<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">he same here!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Our crew of writer\u2019s includes those brave four who joined me as stretch goal writers during the initial campaign: Elizabeth Chaipraditkul, Todd Crapper, Steve Radabaugh, and our friend Craig Campbell. In addition, Jonathan Lavallee was conned into joining the squad. I\u2019m particularly happy about that because he pitched me \u201c<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Call the Midmouse\u201d<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">all those years ago but we weren\u2019t able to include him in the Kickstarter, so I\u2019m 100% thrilled to get that setting in the new book. He shall also be running \u201c<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Call the Midmouse\u201d<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">as part of the campaign on September 24!<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Finally, we\u2019ve got Alan Barnes, who did some spectacular work for the project\u2019s animated trailer.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-04.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-25230 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-04-203x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"203\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-04-203x300.png 203w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-04.png 680w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 203px) 100vw, 203px\" \/><\/a>EGG: <\/b><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><b>That trailer looks great! <\/b><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><b>Elizabeth Chaipraditkul is one of the most in-demand creators in RPG right now. She\u2019s the project manager of <\/b><\/span><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/magpiegames\/avatar-legends-the-roleplaying-game\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><i><b>Avatar Legends: The Roleplaying Game<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Liberation Serif, serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><b>, which is huge! It\u2019s awesome that she\u2019s a part of this anthology. How did you bring that about? <\/b><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>DEREK<\/b>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\">Really it\u2019s all about being able to see into the future and subsequently produce good timing! It goes back to the initial campaign: when I put out the call for writers she was one of the first to respond. I reached out to her, as well as Craig, earlier this year about the new book and they were both very generous. In spite of her busy schedule, which includes producing the massive game you just mentioned, Liz did a little \u201cdev diary\u201d for one of the campaign updates which was kind of her.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG: What\u2019s her setting about? <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>DEREK<\/b>: \u201c<span style=\"color: #000000;\">Metal Mouse\/Furry Trail\u201d <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">is about your motorcycle gang blasting through space while being pursued by the hamsterous (just made that word up) War Horde. You rock out, visit space stations, investigate strange new worlds like Catplanet, and generally have a good time as you avoid being taken captive by Immortal Lim.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG: That will be fun! I\u2019m going to pick one more setting to discuss. Since I talk to Craig Campbell so much, let\u2019s look at his. What\u2019s it about? <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>DEREK<\/b>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\">Craig has given us the wonderful \u201c<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Rock n Roll Sock Hop Mouse<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">.\u201d I love this one because it\u2019s almost like a prequel to <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">HMTM. Set in the 1950s, your mice and their motorcycle clubs go to sock hops, sing about teenage angst, do the twist, and doge the fuzz. It is truly delightful for anyone who likes <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Grease<\/i><\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">or <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Happy Days<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-03.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-25231 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-03-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-03-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-03-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-03.jpg 680w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>EGG: This project runs on <i>FATE<\/i>. Why is that the right system for this game? <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>DEREK<\/b>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Fate<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> is just a very malleable system. The core of it works so well, the gears are so well oiled, and everything is so easily adaptable, that whatever your game needs can be plugged in in some fashion. Take our gang rules, for example: I thankfully had Mark Diaz Truman\u2019s <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Factions<\/i><\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">rules to draw upon, but tossing them into the game using the central mechanics would have been a walk in the proverbial park. It\u2019s far more open and less constrictive than <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>P<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>owered by the Apocalypse<\/i><\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">or a more traditional d20 system and, while that has its drawbacks, it\u2019s correct for something like HMTM because mice on motorcycles don\u2019t need perfect abstractions or a lot of direction. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>Fate<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> gives you the rules required to bring the world to life while allowing the setting the space it needs to breathe. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG: Beyond <i>Heavy Metal Thunder Mouse: Beyond Thunder City<\/i>, what else are you working on? <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>DEREK<\/b>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\">I will be working on resting for the duration of 2020s ugly sequel, I hope! <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i>The Broken Cask<\/i><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">, my solo RPG about running a fantasy inn, just launched publicly a few weeks ago. I hope to continue to drum up interest for that if I can. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nerdburgergames.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nerdburger<\/a> Con is coming up next month and I\u2019ve got some new music, the demo for which should be released by year\u2019s end. Short of that, I\u2019ve got my usual creative endeavors which will keep me quite busy. So it seems there will be little time to rest after all!<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-01.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-25233 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-01-203x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"203\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-01-203x300.jpg 203w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Heavy-Metal-Thunder-Mouse-Beyond-Thunder-City-01.jpg 680w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 203px) 100vw, 203px\" \/><\/a>EGG: Thanks for talking with me. Where can fans learn more about this project?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>DEREK<\/b>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\">Thank you, Egg! It\u2019s great talking to you. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><i><b>Beyond Thunder City<\/b><\/i><\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">is live on Kickstarter right now! You can also visit <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">[<a href=\"http:\/\/www.shorelessskies.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">my website<\/a>]<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> for more on HMTM and various other books. From there one can find links to my various social media outlets for more fun.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/shorelessskies\/hmtm-beyond-thunder-city\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Heavy Metal Thunder Mouse: Beyond Thunder City<\/a> from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/9491\/Shoreless-Skies-Publishing&amp;affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Shoreless Skies Publishing<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cNew worlds for mice and their motorcycle clubs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><i>Egg Embry participates in the OneBookShelf Affiliate Program and is an Amazon Associate. These programs provide advertising fees by linking to DriveThruRPG and Amazon.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>At AndoCon 2018, I played Derek A. Kamal\u2019s Heavy Metal Thunder Mouse. 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