{"id":23332,"date":"2021-01-21T07:00:03","date_gmt":"2021-01-21T13:00:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/?p=23332"},"modified":"2021-01-15T08:04:30","modified_gmt":"2021-01-15T14:04:30","slug":"steve-jackson-games-gurps-pyramid-scheme-an-interview-with-steven-marsh-and-sean-punch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/steve-jackson-games-gurps-pyramid-scheme-an-interview-with-steven-marsh-and-sean-punch\/","title":{"rendered":"Steve Jackson Games\u2019 GURPS Pyramid Scheme: An Interview With Steven Marsh and Sean Punch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Steve Jackson Games (SJG) is bringing back their magazine, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/warehouse23\/steve-jackson-games-gurps-pyramid-scheme\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Pyramid<\/i><\/a>, through this Kickstarter. The editors behind it, Steven Marsh and Sean Punch, agreed to answer my questions about this campaign and some of the other upcoming SJG projects.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_23336\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23336\" style=\"width: 231px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-SJG37-2645.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23336 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-SJG37-2645.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"231\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23336\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Example issue. Not a part of this campaign.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>EGG EMBRY (EGG)<\/b><b>: Thank you for talking with me about this project. What <\/b><b>is the Kickstarter for <\/b><i><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/warehouse23\/steve-jackson-games-gurps-pyramid-scheme\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Steve Jackson Games\u2019 GURPS Pyramid Scheme<\/a> <\/b><\/i><b>going to produce<\/b><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>STEVEN MARSH (STEVEN)<\/b>: It\u2019s three different issues of <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/warehouse23\/steve-jackson-games-gurps-pyramid-scheme\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pyramid<\/a>,<\/i> a gaming magazine that supports <i>GURPS.<\/i> To expand a bit: <i>Pyramid<\/i> began life as a print magazine, lasting from 1993 through 1998. Following its end as a print publication, it had an era as a weekly updated website, lasting from 1998 through 2008. After that, we launched what we called the third volume of <i>Pyramid:<\/i> a monthly PDF magazine that lasted 10 years, until 2018. The <i>GURPS Pyramid<\/i> Scheme continues the tradition of that third volume; each PDF provides articles tied to a genre theme in support of <i>GURPS.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>SEAN PUNCH (SEAN)<\/b>: To amplify a bit on what Steven just wrote, it\u2019s a Kickstarter campaign to bring to life three issues of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/warehouse23\/steve-jackson-games-gurps-pyramid-scheme\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Pyramid, <\/i>Volume 4<\/a>: one for fantasy and magic, one for modern-day action and adventure, and one for futuristic gaming and tech. These will be PDFs in the tradition of <i>Pyramid, <\/i>Volume 3 (Volume 2 being the webzine and<i> <\/i>Volume 1 the printed magazine). Because a Kickstarter needs stretch goals, each issue is going to start small, but we\u2019ll add articles as support grows.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: Sean, for this Kickstarter, your role within SJG is <\/b><b>a key factor in making this project happen<\/b><b>, what do you do for SJG?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>SEAN<\/b>: I\u2019m the <i>GURPS<\/i> Line Editor, meaning I\u2019m the boss of <i>GURPS <\/i>rules and text: I review authors\u2019 queries and proposals, answer authors\u2019 questions, review drafts and submit tons of comments, tackle playtest questions, edit many (not all!) final drafts, and make a final pass over products before they go live. I also do a lot of writing. And I take time to answer rules questions from partners (like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/10927\/Gaming-Ballistic-LLC?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gaming Ballistic<\/a>) and gamers. In short, I\u2019m the developer of <i>GURPS. <\/i>Other talented people handle production, project management, business decisions, etc.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_23337\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23337\" style=\"width: 231px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/GURPSSet_cover_1000.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23337 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/GURPSSet_cover_1000-231x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"231\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/GURPSSet_cover_1000-231x300.jpg 231w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/GURPSSet_cover_1000.jpg 270w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 231px) 100vw, 231px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23337\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Example product. Product not a part of the campaign.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: Sean, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.enworld.org\/threads\/gurps-2020-pdf-challenge-book-of-dungeon-encounters-%E2%80%93-an-interview-with-philip-reed-and-sean-punch.672939\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">we spoke before about the <\/a><\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.enworld.org\/threads\/gurps-2020-pdf-challenge-book-of-dungeon-encounters-%E2%80%93-an-interview-with-philip-reed-and-sean-punch.672939\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><b>GURPS 2020 PDF Challenge<\/b><\/i><\/a><b>, the Kickstarter in which you launched a number of <\/b><i><b>GURPS<\/b><\/i><b> PDFs, in your opinion, how did the fans receive that campaign? Is SJG planning to revisit it and offer more short <\/b><i><b>GURPS<\/b><\/i><b> PDFs?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>SEAN<\/b>: I was floored by the response to that campaign! We hit all the stretch goals with time to spare, the final backer count was more than double what I expected, and the earnings made it an unambiguous win. Closer to my heart were fan reviews, which were positive, the only negative words coming from people who couldn\u2019t use everything in the grab-bag (that\u2019s to be expected). SJ Games has <i>already<\/i> offered further short <i>GURPS <\/i>PDFs as standard non-Kickstarter releases \u2013 I even wrote a few myself. I couldn\u2019t tell you whether there will be a <i>GURPS<\/i> 2021 PDF Challenge, however; as I said, I\u2019m the boss of rules and text, not business.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: <\/b><b>A<\/b><b>s the Line Editor for <\/b><i><b>GURPS<\/b><\/i><b>, why create new content via <\/b><i><b>Pyramid<\/b><\/i><b> magazine as opposed to more short PDFs or a sourcebook?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>SEAN<\/b>: Not all ideas cool enough to deserve a platform fill enough pages for a PDF to be economical. Somebody might be making money off four-page PDFs, but we have too much overhead for that; e.g., our customers expect things like title pages and tables of contents, which get silly for four-page items. So while we like short PDFs, there\u2019s such a thing as <i>too <\/i>short! A zine like <i>Pyramid<\/i> is an economical way to offer compilations of short ideas. Of course there\u2019s the \u201cgrab-bag effect\u201d I mentioned, since not everybody can use everything in each issue, but that\u2019s balanced by the fact that a sm\u00f6rg\u00e5sbord of ideas shows off the versatility of <i>GURPS.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_23334\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23334\" style=\"width: 232px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-SJG37-2621.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23334 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-SJG37-2621.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"232\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23334\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Example issue. Not a part of this campaign.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: Steven, <\/b><b>coming over to your part in this project,<\/b><b> what\u2019s your role in SJG?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>STEVEN<\/b>: My most commonly used signature is as the <i>GURPS<\/i> Project Manager. Basically, I handle a lot of the day-to-day administrivia of <i>GURPS,<\/i> freeing up Sean Punch to be brilliant in his own ways. But I also step in as needed elsewhere in the company, especially for digital and POD initiatives.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: I\u2019ve noticed a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.enworld.org\/threads\/rpg-crowdfunding-news-%E2%80%93-monster-description-cards-olde-school-wizardry-and-more.677169\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">trend of <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.enworld.org\/threads\/rpg-crowdfunding-news-%E2%80%93-monster-description-cards-olde-school-wizardry-and-more.677169\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RPG magazines crowdfunding during December and January<\/a>. As the editor for <\/b><i><b>Pyramid<\/b><\/i><b>, what makes now the right time to bring this magazine back? <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>STEVEN<\/b>: We found great success last year with the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/warehouse23\/steve-jackson-games-gurps-2020-pdf-challenge\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>GURPS<\/i><i> 2020 PDF Challenge<\/i><\/a>, which resulted in 12 compact <i>GURPS<\/i> supplements all being released at once. Shortly before that, we released the <i>Pyramid Dungeon Collection,<\/i> a well-received supplement that updated some of the print-era <i>Pyramid <\/i>material to <i>GURPS Fourth Edition.<\/i> The reaction to those two projects led us to believe there\u2019s an audience for smaller material, especially when it\u2019s coupled with the excitement and community of a fundraising campaign. The <i>GURPS<\/i> <i>Pyramid<\/i> Scheme is a further expansion of that idea, to see how much fan demand there is in these bite-size bits of gaming goodness. As for the timing: I suspect the pandemic and news have resulted in everyone\u2019s attention spans being a bit frayed lately. I think gaming magazines are seeing something of a renaissance because even if there isn\u2019t the ability to absorb and appreciate a 256-page gaming book \u2013 or find a group to play it with \u2013 it\u2019s still possible to read a four-page article that sparks your imagination or gives a jolt of gaming adrenaline.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG: That is a fair point. Why launch with three issues as opposed to one?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>STEVEN<\/b>: We\u2019re releasing three issues at once because that strategy meshes well with the previous era of <i>Pyramid. <\/i>Each issue was tightly themed, with the month devoted to magical items or cyberpunk or cinematic locations. For a majority of those issues, the genre could be classified into roughly \u201cpast\/fantasy,\u201d \u201cpresent\/action,\u201d and \u201cscience fiction.\u201d So, we\u2019re releasing three issues \u2013 one for each genre. By embracing that structure, someone who just plays fantasy (for example) has a better chance in a single issue at getting material they can use. Releasing three issues at once helps ensure that anyone who has just about any interest in <i>GURPS<\/i> will find something inspiring.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Warehouse-23.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23338 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Warehouse-23-300x79.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"79\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Warehouse-23-300x79.png 300w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Warehouse-23.png 472w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>EGG<\/b><b>: <\/b><b>W<\/b><b>ho is working on the articles for this?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>STEVEN<\/b>: We invited a large number of fan-favorite <i>GURPS<\/i> authors, including Phil Masters, Matt Riggsby, Peter V. Dell\u2019Orto, Christopher R. Rice, and \u2013 of course \u2013 Sean Punch. We also have a number of writers who were popular in the pages of the previous <i>Pyramid<\/i> making a return, including J. Edward Tremlett and Jason Brick.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: <\/b><b>W<\/b><b>ho is working on the articles for this? How far along are the three issues?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>STEVEN<\/b>: The campaign is structured so that the final size will be decided by the fan demand and support; the more funding goals we reach, the more articles are \u201cunlocked\u201d and the larger each issue is. All three issues are completely done as far as their editorial and artistic content. Once the crowdfunding campaign ends, it will be a matter of making sure the correct articles are included, fixing the table of contents and introduction, and updating the internal \u201cp. 00\u201d references. I\u2019m excited to know that we\u2019ll be delivering issues to backers <i>very<\/i> quickly after the end of the campaign.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_23335\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23335\" style=\"width: 231px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-SJG37-2639.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23335 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-SJG37-2639.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"231\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23335\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Example issue. Not a part of this campaign.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: Beyond this project, what are each of you working on for SJG and for yourselves?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>STEVEN<\/b>: Probably the biggest continuing project I\u2019ve been working on at Steve Jackson Games has been our ongoing efforts to make a huge amount of our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sjgames.com\/gurps\/ondemand\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">classic <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sjgames.com\/gurps\/ondemand\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>GURPS<\/i> back catalog available via print-on-demand efforts<\/a>. This has enabled our books \u2013 some of them long out of print \u2013 to find their way into fans\u2019 hands, cheaper and quicker than ever. This has proven to be a game-changer (so to speak), especially for our international fans who have been struggling with the global problems of shipping costs and logistics. As far as any personal projects . . . mostly I\u2019ve been trying to survive the rollercoaster that has been the past however-many months.<\/p>\n<p><b>SEAN<\/b>: People are tired of Illuminati jokes, so I hate to say, \u201cYou\u2019re not cleared for that!\u201d . . . but the thing I\u2019m most likely to be working on for SJ Games in the near future is something I can\u2019t discuss yet, because we\u2019re still planning. I can say that I\u2019ll almost certainly be writing more short PDFs for my pet series, <i>GURPS Action<\/i> and <i>GURPS Dungeon Fantasy. <\/i>Outside of that, being the <i>GURPS <\/i>Line Editor is a full-time job that leaves me little time for personal projects \u2013 and after working on RPGs all day, I don\u2019t want the things I do for myself to be tied to RPGs. Perhaps I\u2019ll find the time and motivation to write a book on cocktails, and once confinement ends, I\u2019ll surely spend more time on Argentine tango; those are my other hobbies.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: Thank you both for taking the time to speak with me. Where can fans follow this campaign and SJG?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>STEVEN<\/b>: The campaign will launch on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/warehouse23\/steve-jackson-games-gurps-pyramid-scheme\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kickstarter<\/a>. You can sign up there to be notified when it does launch. Steve Jackson Games has (to the best of our knowledge) the oldest continuously running blog \u2013 the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sjgames.com\/ill\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Daily Illuminator<\/i><\/a> \u2013 and you can follow it for our latest news and insights.<\/p>\n<p><b>SEAN<\/b>: I was going to write what Steven just wrote, but I\u2019ll add a couple of URLs. For a monthly retrospective on <i>GURPS,<\/i> see the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sjgames.com\/GURPS\/#news\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>GURPS<\/i> News<\/a>. For hints, clues, and leaks, see <a href=\"https:\/\/dr-kromm.livejournal.com\/tag\/GURPS\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">my personal journal every Friday<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-01.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23339 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-01-300x169.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-01-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-01-768x432.png 768w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-01-678x381.png 678w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/Pyramid-01.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/warehouse23\/steve-jackson-games-gurps-pyramid-scheme\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Steve Jackson Games&#8217; GURPS Pyramid Scheme<\/a> <\/b><b>from <\/b><b>Warehouse 23 <\/b><b>and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/12199\/Steve-Jackson-Games?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Steve Jackson Games<\/a><\/b><\/h2>\n<p>\u201c<i>Pyramid<\/i> returns with three new issues! <i>GURPS<\/i> support for fantasy, modern, and sci-fi campaigns! Select one, two, or all three issues!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b><br \/>\n<\/b><i>Egg Embry participates in the OneBookShelf Affiliate Program and is an Amazon Associate. These programs provide advertising fees by linking to DriveThruRPG and Amazon.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>Steve Jackson Games (SJG) is bringing back their magazine, Pyramid, through this Kickstarter. 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