{"id":22671,"date":"2020-11-13T07:00:18","date_gmt":"2020-11-13T13:00:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/?p=22671"},"modified":"2020-11-06T08:18:39","modified_gmt":"2020-11-06T14:18:39","slug":"dark-places-demogorgons-5e-an-interview-with-brandon-k-aten-and-eric-bloat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/dark-places-demogorgons-5e-an-interview-with-brandon-k-aten-and-eric-bloat\/","title":{"rendered":"Dark Places &amp; Demogorgons (5e): An Interview With Brandon K Aten and Eric Bloat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>DISCLAIMER: I wrote a story for\u00a0<a class=\"link link--external\" href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/9721\/Bloat-Games?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow ugc noopener noreferrer\">Bloat Games<\/a>\u2019 superhero anthology,\u00a0<a class=\"link link--external\" href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrufiction.com\/product\/333479\/Tales-from-Vigilante-City--Short-Fiction-Collection-for-SURVIVE-THIS-Vigilante-City?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow ugc noopener noreferrer\">Tales from Vigilante City<\/a> (which I and the other authors discuss <a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/talking-to-the-authors-of-tales-from-vigilante-city-a-superhero-rpg-anthology-bloat-games\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>). <\/em><\/p>\n<p>When Eric Bloat, who I\u2019ve <a class=\"link link--external\" href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/survive-this-fantasy-tabletop-rpg-an-interview-with-eric-bloat-bloat-games\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow ugc noopener noreferrer\">roleplayed with, reviewed, and interviewed several times<\/a>, and <a class=\"link link--internal\" href=\"https:\/\/www.enworld.org\/threads\/never-going-home-campaign-dossiers-kickstarter-brandon-k-aten-and-matthew-orr.669881\/\">Brandon K. Aten<\/a> announced they were updating and kickstarting Bloat Games&#8217; <em>Dark Places &amp; Demogorgons<\/em> from OSR to 5e via Wet Ink Games, I knew I needed to discuss why they were making the transition, who was involved, and what this new edition would involve. Fortunately, they agreed to talk with me about their project.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/119998330_643250569959390_514488639488575127_n-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-22670 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/119998330_643250569959390_514488639488575127_n-1-300x296.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"296\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/119998330_643250569959390_514488639488575127_n-1-300x296.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/119998330_643250569959390_514488639488575127_n-1.jpg 720w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>EGG EMBRY (EGG)<\/b><b>: Today I\u2019m joined by two publishers, Brandon K Aten from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/9148\/Wet-Ink-Games?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wet Ink Games<\/a> and Eric Bloat of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/9721\/Bloat-Games?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bloat Games<\/a>. Thank you both for talking with me. You have a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/jiangshi\/dark-places-and-demogorgons-5e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kickstarter that brought your two companies together<\/a>, what can you share about it?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BRANDON K ATEN (BRANDON)<\/b>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/jiangshi\/dark-places-and-demogorgons-5e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><i>Dark Places &amp; Demogorgons 5e<\/i><\/a> is an awesome game based on the hit OSR product by Bloat Games. We\u2019ve known Eric for years and we\u2019ve always been stoked to work with him on various projects. It was only a matter of time before we teamed up for something cool.<\/p>\n<p><b>ERIC BLOAT (ERIC)<\/b>: I\u2019m very excited to be collaborating with Wet Ink Games on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/jiangshi\/dark-places-and-demogorgons-5e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><i>Dark Places &amp; Demogorgons 5e<\/i><\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: <\/b><i><b>Dark Places &amp; Demogorgons<\/b><\/i><b> already exists in an OSR version, why convert it to 5e?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BRANDON<\/b>: There is no denying the popularity of 5e, and people are always looking for new books with great ideas and player options. DP&amp;D 5e is exactly that and scratches a big itch in the community.<\/p>\n<p><b>ERIC<\/b>: The number one question I get most often about DP&amp;D is, \u201cWhen are you going to make it for fifth edition?\u201d So, the idea for converting has been at the forefront of my planning and dreaming. However, I really thought the scope of the project was a little too large for Bloat Games to take on, so I had been hesitant to do so until now.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/TeenWolfFinalSolidBG.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-22669 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/TeenWolfFinalSolidBG-240x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/TeenWolfFinalSolidBG-240x300.png 240w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/TeenWolfFinalSolidBG-819x1024.png 819w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/TeenWolfFinalSolidBG-768x960.png 768w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/TeenWolfFinalSolidBG.png 1152w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><\/a>EGG<\/b><b>: In a sort of reverse of the <\/b><i><b>Dungeons &amp; Dragons Cartoon<\/b><\/i><b>, how do you take fantasy 5e to a 1980s setting?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BRANDON<\/b>: DP&amp;D5e is less of a fantasy game in the 80s, and more an 80s teen horror movie that uses the rules of 5e that players are familiar with. Balancing the responsibilities of school, family, friends, and social commitments while trying to investigate the crazy things happening in your town are all part of the story. We have taken some \u201cbig bad\u201d monsters and other minions and brought them into scenarios along with more mundane threats of your town that help you craft the arc of your adventure.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: <\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse.php?keywords=Dark+Places+%26+Demogorgons&amp;manufacturers_id=9721&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&amp;author=&amp;artist=&amp;pfrom=&amp;pto=&amp;affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><i><b>Dark Places &amp; Demogorgons<\/b><\/i><b> (OSR)<\/b><\/a><b> has over a dozen supplements including a bestiary. How much of that line will be recreated through this Kickstarter?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>ERIC<\/b>: This isn\u2019t a simple rules swap with the original core rule book. More so, it\u2019s kind of a remix of the entire existing product line with a healthy dose of new concepts and ideas added over the familiar ruleset of fifth edition.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: What new content not in the original DP&amp;D OSR books can fans expect?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BRANDON<\/b>: Whenever I get a 5e product, either official or from a third party, the thing I always look for first is the inclusion of cool player options. One thing that 5e does extremely well is allow the players to play heroic level characters as they go out into the world to become epic defenders of the realm. DP&amp;D5e offers players the ability to explore characters who are just now learning the supernatural even exists, and who are simply trying to enjoy being kids, but are thrown into a much darker world around them. These rules are not only new to 5e players, but also OSR players. New monsters, new art, and new threats are all included too!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_22667\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22667\" style=\"width: 118px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Creative-Team.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-22667 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Creative-Team-118x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"118\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Creative-Team-118x300.png 118w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Creative-Team-404x1024.png 404w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Creative-Team-768x1949.png 768w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Creative-Team-605x1536.png 605w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Creative-Team-807x2048.png 807w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Creative-Team.png 848w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 118px) 100vw, 118px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-22667\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click this image to see the creators involved.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: Who is working on this?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BRANDON<\/b>: We\u2019ve put together a fantastic team of writers, designers and artists. You can see all of them here!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: Eric, why partner with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/9148\/Wet-Ink-Games?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wet Ink Games<\/a>? You did the OSR, why not handle the conversion to 5e in-house? <\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>ERIC<\/b>: To do this project the way it needed to be done was beyond the current capabilities of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/9721\/Bloat-Games?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bloat Games<\/a>, at least now without a considerable amount of help. And above all else, I wanted this done right! That\u2019s where Wet Ink Games comes in. They\u2019ve done larger projects like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/product\/283637\/Never-Going-Home?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><i>Never Going Home<\/i><\/a> and <i>Jiangshi: Blood in the Banquet Hall<\/i>, so I knew they had the experience and the capabilities to take my concept and do it justice. And Brandon is a great friend, who I knew I could trust with my baby. It really is a great partnership.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: Brandon, recently Wet Ink Games kickstarted <\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/jiangshi\/jiangshi-blood-in-the-banquet-hall\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><i><b>Jiangshi: Blood in the Banquet Hall<\/b><\/i><\/a><b>, which was more of a publisher project for you than a designer project since it is Banana Chan and Sen-Foong Lim\u2019s game. Do you see DP&amp;D 5e in the same light as <\/b><i><b>Jiangshi<\/b><\/i><b> or as more of a designer project for you?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BRANDON<\/b>: This is a little mixture of both. While we are acting mostly as a publisher, we have been able to assemble a great creative team to build on the great ideas Bloat Games brought to project. We\u2019ve been able to do a lot of really cool things from a creative perspective, but we\u2019ve made sure to keep Eric in the loop from the beginning and he\u2019s chimed in along the way to make sure the vision still shines through.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/WI.GoatmanScan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-22666 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/WI.GoatmanScan-240x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/WI.GoatmanScan-240x300.png 240w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/WI.GoatmanScan-819x1024.png 819w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/WI.GoatmanScan-768x960.png 768w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/WI.GoatmanScan-1229x1536.png 1229w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/WI.GoatmanScan-1638x2048.png 1638w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><\/a>EGG<\/b><b>: Does this open the door to <\/b><i><b>SURVIVE THIS!! Zombies! 5e<\/b><\/i><b> or <\/b><i><b>SURVIVE THIS!! Vigilante City! 5e<\/b><\/i><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BRANDON<\/b>: I\u2019ll never say never, but I want to make sure we\u2019re the best partner for Eric and Bloat Games that we can be, and if other cool things happen down the line, that would be excellent.<\/p>\n<p><b>ERIC<\/b>: There\u2019s always a possibility that those properties could be converted to 5E. However, right now, we\u2019re solely focused on DP&amp;D5E and doing it as a standalone project, separate from the other intellectual properties owned by Bloat Games.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>EGG<\/b><b>: Beyond this project, what else are you working on?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BRANDON<\/b>: Wet Ink Games has a number of projects in the works, including the upcoming <i>Heckin\u2019 Good Doggos<\/i>, and <i>FROST<\/i> roleplaying games.<\/p>\n<p><b>ERIC<\/b>: I\u2019ve cleared my schedule to focus on this project. There may be another <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/zine-quest\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">zinequest<\/a> project for Bloat Games but that is still a few months off for now.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/DPnD-Book-Mock-up.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-22668 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/DPnD-Book-Mock-up-288x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"288\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/DPnD-Book-Mock-up-288x300.png 288w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/DPnD-Book-Mock-up-984x1024.png 984w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/DPnD-Book-Mock-up-768x799.png 768w, https:\/\/www.d20radio.com\/main\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/DPnD-Book-Mock-up.png 1328w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 288px) 100vw, 288px\" \/><\/a>EGG<\/b><b>: Thanks for talking with me. Where can fans of your work follow you online?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BRANDON<\/b>: You can always follow Wet Ink Games on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/WetInkGames\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Facebook<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/WetInkGames\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Twitter<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/wetinkgames\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>ERIC<\/b>: [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/bloatgames\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Facebook<\/a> or our <a href=\"https:\/\/bloatgames.squarespace.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">website<\/a>.]<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/jiangshi\/dark-places-and-demogorgons-5e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dark Places &amp; Demogorgons 5e<\/a> from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/9148\/Wet-Ink-Games?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wet Ink Games<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drivethrurpg.com\/browse\/pub\/9721\/Bloat-Games?affiliate_id=814082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bloat Games<\/a><\/b><\/h2>\n<p>End Date: Thu, November 19 2020 9:01 PM EST.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c80s high school horror compatible with the 5th edition of the worlds most popular RPG.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><i>Egg Embry participates in the OneBookShelf Affiliate Program and is an Amazon Associate. These programs provide advertising fees by linking to DriveThruRPG and Amazon.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>DISCLAIMER: I wrote a story for\u00a0Bloat Games\u2019 superhero anthology,\u00a0Tales from Vigilante City (which I and the other authors discuss here). 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