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Argyle Jedi
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Post subject: I"m sure this has been asked before,  Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:01 pm |
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But 1. what episode did they discuss non-heroic classes and their design, and 2. Anyone have any tips on same?
Any help would be hot.
Argyle JEdi
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Cyril
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Post subject: Re: I"m sure this has been asked before, Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:19 pm |
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I don't know if they've gone into an in depth discussion on it, but I know it got some screen time in one of the episodes Sterling was on. I think it was episode 101 (but don't quote me on that) En Pee Theeths.
_________________ GM Chris wrote: Cyril's got it. ;-) AsaTJ wrote: Cyril wrote: Only if I can call him one bad motheryubber in game. And every once in a while, I am reminded why this is the best forum community on the Internet.
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Awaypturwpn
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Post subject: Re: I"m sure this has been asked before, Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:50 pm |
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Cyril wrote: I don't know if they've gone into an in depth discussion on it, but I know it got some screen time in one of the episodes Sterling was on. I think it was episode 101 (but don't quote me on that) En Pee Theeths. Yeah I just listened that that Episode. It touches fairly well on nonheroics. One thing I'd add to their general talk on the benefits of building a nonheroic character is that it gives you a chance to create low-CL NPCs with some Prestige Class Levels. For example, you could have a CL 4 Crime Lord (nonheroic 7/Crime Lord 2) with Impel Ally I & II  So it can make for very interesting encounters for your PCs.
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Donovan Morningfire
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Post subject: Re: I"m sure this has been asked before, Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:22 am |
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Awaypturwpn wrote: Yeah I just listened that that Episode. It touches fairly well on nonheroics. One thing I'd add to their general talk on the benefits of building a nonheroic character is that it gives you a chance to create low-CL NPCs with some Prestige Class Levels. For example, you could have a CL 4 Crime Lord (nonheroic 7/Crime Lord 2) with Impel Ally I & II So it can make for very interesting encounters for your PCs. One thing to keep in mind is that a few prestige classes (Crime Lord included) often require one or more Talents, which are only available if you have Heroic class levels. So it would be possible to have a CL4 Crime Lord, using Nonheroic 6, a level in either Noble or Scoundrel to satisfy the talent requirement, and then a single level in Crime Lord. Naturally, you could bump the CL up to 5 to account for that second level in Crime Lord to get the talents that Awypturwpn mentioned, which would be good for a major villain for the end of a story-arc for a group of low-level heroes. _________________ "If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."- Eddie Izzard Contributing Author of the GSA Dono's Gaming & Etc BlogFollow me on Twitter at @donovan421
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Awaypturwpn
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Post subject: Re: I"m sure this has been asked before, Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:52 pm |
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Mah bizzy. Should actually check stuff when I post suggestions As restitution, a list of all PrCs that don't require talents and can be entered into with the appropriate amount of nonheroic levels: Ace Pilot Corporate Agent Gladiator (BAB +7) Gunslinger Imperial Knight (BAB +7) Improviser Independent Droid Jedi Knight (BAB +7) Jedi Master Medic Melee Duelist (BAB +7) Military Engineer (BAB +7) Saboteur Shaper (Yuuzhan Vong) Sith Apprentice Sith Lord
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richarDISNEY
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Post subject: Re: I"m sure this has been asked before, Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:49 pm |
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Whip them up like wimpy pcs. Just as long as give me back my lightsaber.... : (I am a regular player in his game.... ) _________________ "What exactly is a 'Headpiece to the Staff of Ra'?"RicharDISNEY Rescue Drinkin' and Gamin' Clubhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4_dZPVg8KI
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Donovan Morningfire
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Post subject: Re: I"m sure this has been asked before, Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:59 am |
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Awaypturwpn wrote: As restitution, a list of all PrCs that don't require talents and can be entered into with the appropriate amount of nonheroic levels:
Jedi Knight (BAB +7)
Jedi Master One other possibly niggling detail to bear in mind with these (and possibly the Imperial Knight too) is that they require the character to have constructed their own lightsaber, something that requires 7 heroic levels to accomplish. Now the GM can easily handwave this (and I've done so in the past for some NPC opponents), but by RAW, those two prestige classes are functionally off-limits to anyone with just Non-Heroic levels. Just something to bear in mind. _________________ "If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."- Eddie Izzard Contributing Author of the GSA Dono's Gaming & Etc BlogFollow me on Twitter at @donovan421
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