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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:47 pm 
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Fiddleback wrote:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/revanchist

Much to my surprise a couple of years ago.


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:)

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Huh.

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:11 pm 
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Since all sort of titles are being tossed around, I'll toss some more into the mix:

Rank 8 – Cognotio (newbies)

Rank 7 – Vigilans (3 month member)

Rank 6 – Adsertor (full Member)

~Officers~

Rank 5 – Eques Vexillo Reven (all other Officers)

Rank 4 - Proconsule Bellum (officer of PvP)

Rank 3 - Vicarius Relationem (officer of Role Play)

Rank 2 - Magister et Imperator Reven (Kat)

Rank 1 - Magister Gand Conservator Reven (Fiddleback)


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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:32 pm 
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AsaTJ wrote:
FULON: I kind of feel like your ranks are trying too hard not to sound Jedi. Just my humble opinion. They're very cool-sounding, just not "Revan" enough.

Heh, okay, is this "Revan" enough for ya?

Rank 8: Recalled "You have been summoned into Revan's Service to the Republic"
Rank 7: Recieved "You have been accepted into Revan's Service to the Republic"
Rank 6: Repentant "You have proven adherence to the Ideals of Revan's Service to the Republic"
Rank 5: Redeemed "You are an extension of Revan's will Protecting the Republic"
-=OFFICERS=-
Rank 4: Knight-Redeemer "You command others in the name of Revan's Service"
Rank 3: Revanloutionary (Or Master-Redeemer)
Rank 2: Reach of Revan (Kat)
Rank 1: Hand of Revan (Fiddle)

conveniently, this can dovetail with our "Sithly" counter-guild as....

Rank 8: Removed "You have chosen to Shun the Republic"
Rank 7: Revoked "You have Abandoned the folly of the Republic in favor of the Power to create Order"
Rank 6: Recast "You have been honed into a weapon to deliver Revan's will by Force"
Rank 5: Reviled "You are an extension of Revan's will siezing the Republic from the weak"
-=OFFICERS=-
Rank 4: Lord Resurgent "You conquer others in the name of Revan's Power"
Rank 3: Lord Revanant (or Revanator)
Rank 2: Fist of Revan
Rank 1: Blade of Revan

;)

My previous list was engineered specifically as dual-purposed to be as fully appropriate for both Jedi and non-Jedi alike, btw. 8) Not to be "intentionally non-Jedi" but "Jedi-Enough-but-not-Too-Jedi"

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:46 pm 
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bd09 wrote:
Since all sort of titles are being tossed around, I'll toss some more into the mix:

Rank 8 – Cognotio (newbies)

Rank 7 – Vigilans (3 month member)

Rank 6 – Adsertor (full Member)

~Officers~

Rank 5 – Eques Vexillo Reven (all other Officers)

Rank 4 - Proconsule Bellum (officer of PvP)

Rank 3 - Vicarius Relationem (officer of Role Play)

Rank 2 - Magister et Imperator Reven (Kat)

Rank 1 - Magister Gand Conservator Reven (Fiddleback)


Shall we also rename the guild to "Il Imperium Revanus Latinus"?

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:22 pm 
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AsaTJ wrote:
bd09 wrote:
Since all sort of titles are being tossed around, I'll toss some more into the mix:

Rank 8 – Cognotio (newbies)

Rank 7 – Vigilans (3 month member)

Rank 6 – Adsertor (full Member)

~Officers~

Rank 5 – Eques Vexillo Reven (all other Officers)

Rank 4 - Proconsule Bellum (officer of PvP)

Rank 3 - Vicarius Relationem (officer of Role Play)

Rank 2 - Magister et Imperator Reven (Kat)

Rank 1 - Magister Gand Conservator Reven (Fiddleback)


Shall we also rename the guild to "Il Imperium Revanus Latinus"?



Well, I guess I can go in the opposite tack:

Rank 8 – Nerf Herder

Rank 7 – Bishwag

Rank 6 – Bantha Breath

Rank 5 – Wokling

-Officers-

Rank 4 – Pateesa

Rank 3 – Koovy

Rank 2 – Sweet Queen Quinella

Rank 1 – Utinni of Reven


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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:27 pm 
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Hey gang,

May I make some further suggestions?

One thing I discovered in my STO fleets is that it can be a good idea to define specific positions. DarthGM originally suggested the following:

1: Guildmaster (Important note; there can only be one GuildMaster, per the Guiild Rank system, so only 1 person is getting this title at a time)
2: Senior Officer
3: Junior Officer
4: Veteran Member
5: Member
6: N00b Member
7: Recruit

However, since TOR lets you set up more ranks, I suggest we use that power. That said, here is my suggestion.
(Note I go lowest to highest)

1. Recruit - This rank is for new applicants that are on probation.
2. Junior Member - People that are beyond being recruited, but less that say 3 months in the guild. (Not sure we really need this frankly.)
3. Member - People that are members of the guild for over 3 months.
4. Senior Member - People that have been members for over 1 year.

Officer Break

5. General Officer Pool - These are the basic officers of the guild.
6. Senior Officers - These are the more experienced general officers

Guild leadership Break - The people above here are the high ranking guild leaders with appointed jobs. I believe that this will help people find who is in charge of what easier.

7. PvP Leader - This will be the person in charge of PvP
8. RP Leader - This would be the person in charge of RP
9. Crafting Leader - This person is in charge of crafting.

etc, etc, etc as needed. You could have class leaders and any other specific leader positions.

10. Vice Guild Leader - Kat
11. Guild leader - Fiddleback

So, that is my idea. Take it for what you will.

Thanks,
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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:09 pm 
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...Vadersson may be on to something there...

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:32 pm 
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While not very RP vadersons idea of idding the specific officers will facilitate better communication within a guide of our size......... good idea I think

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:44 pm 
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Perrian wrote:
While not very RP vadersons idea of idding the specific officers will facilitate better communication within a guide of our size......... good idea I think

As an RPer, that wouldn't especially bother me. I think it would be cooler to have rank names with RP flavor, but I'm totally cool with it either way.

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:59 pm 
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We can attach short descriptions to both ranks and players if needed. So don't worry to much about functional names for the ranks.

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:17 pm 
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Yeah, I was not proposing those names for the ranks any more that DarthGM was in his initial list. I think it would be cool to have position names for the leader ranks however. Example: PvP lead - The Sword of Revan. (Sort of like the Sword of the Jedi.) We could do that for all ranks. I will try and work out some cool names later.

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:50 pm 
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I like the idea of being "Wiffle Bat of Revan". :mrgreen:

I'm one for a simple structure, but that is probably because I have seen too many guilds with overly complicated rank systems.

Just my $0.02

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:06 pm 
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DarthGM wrote:
"Crusader" more comes from the "Jedi Crusaders", which is what the Jedi who folllowed Revan into the Mandallorian War were collectively called.

I guess "Revanchist" comes down to how much do we want to acknowledge what's established out there in the EU.

My suggestions of Crusader and Revanchist were directly inspired by the source material. Really, with the tight link to Revan, it's hard to avoid using Revanchist in some fashion. When you get right down to it, the entire backstory of the guild is a mythology constructed around Revan.

This is particularly true in light of the dictionary meaning of Revanchist (and revanche). Interestingly enough, both sides of the war can claim that they are trying to regain areas of space lost to the other side, so it can apply to both the Order of 66 and the Exiled Lords

Also, Fulongamer's suggestions with a bunch of "Re-" titles was pretty catchy (and just a bit cheesy). It could use a bit of refinement, but works better than I expected.

So, here's a revised suggestion of ranks, in ascending order of importance:
Nerf-Herder - Member on probation due to rule violations
Initiate - New member
Revanchist - Full member
Hand of Revan - Senior member
Crusader - Officer
Vigilant - Senior officer
Eye of Revan - Crafting Coordinator
Blade of Revan - PVP Coordinator
Voice of Revan - RP Coordinator
Heart of Revan - Deputy Guild Master
Soul of Revan - Guild Master

I originally had Vigilant and Hand of Revan switched, but AsaTJ was insistent about wanting Hand of Revan as a non-officer rank. And yes, if you count up the ranks, the dial does go to 11... ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:43 pm 
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vadersson wrote:
1. Recruit - This rank is for new applicants that are on probation.
2. Junior Member - People that are beyond being recruited, but less that say 3 months in the guild. (Not sure we really need this frankly.)
3. Member - People that are members of the guild for over 3 months.
4. Senior Member - People that have been members for over 1 year.

Officer Break

5. General Officer Pool - These are the basic officers of the guild.
6. Senior Officers - These are the more experienced general officers

Guild leadership Break - The people above here are the high ranking guild leaders with appointed jobs. I believe that this will help people find who is in charge of what easier.

7. PvP Leader - This will be the person in charge of PvP
8. RP Leader - This would be the person in charge of RP
9. Crafting Leader - This person is in charge of crafting.

etc, etc, etc as needed. You could have class leaders and any other specific leader positions.

10. Vice Guild Leader - Kat
11. Guild leader - Fiddleback



I like where Duncan and Fedifensor are going with this. I think we can combine the ideas here.

1: Guildmaster
2: Guildmistress

Let's be fair; FB? Kat? It's your title, make it what you want. We really can't stop you.
;)

3. Quartermaster - Crafting Guild Leader
4. Marshal - PVP Lead
5. Ambassador or Emissary - RP Lead

These are my suggestions for the specific "Named Leads" for various departments in the Guild. Their responsibilities outside of their "domains" are the same as the Guild Officers.

6. Protector - Guild Officers

Same permissions as 3-5, effectively

7. Hand of Revan - Senior Guild Member, promoted through length of membership or exceptional service to the Guild
8. Revanchist or Crusader - Member
9. Nerf-Herder - Recruit

No, I'm not going to stop suggesting the name... :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Guild Rank Suggestions
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:05 pm 
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using some others suggestions I built what I think would work in my opinion.

6. Initiate - Recruit / Probation (also not opposed to Nerf-Herder!)

5. Seeker - Member

4. Hand of Revan - Senior Member (I agree that this title should go to members in the guild for 3 months min.)

3. Guild Officers I really like the individual titles for guild leaders, it makes sense.
Eye of Revan - Crafting Coordinator
Blade of Revan - PVP Coordinator
Lore Keeper of Revan - RP Coordinator
Heart of Revan - Deputy Guild Master
Soul of Revan - Guild Master

2. Protector - Vice guild master

1. High Protector - Guild Master

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