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 Post subject: Picture of the WHFP 3e box set
 Post Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:01 pm 
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Courtesy of ENWorld & FFG's website:

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It may be a $100 (retail) box, but at least it doesn't appear to be a lightly-packed box.

Looks like just the sort of thing that Brian and Andy would go ga-ga over considering all the various cards and bits :wink:

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I just look at that and say "Roflpotamus." An RPG just shouldn't be that complicated.

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Wow, I am so skeptical. Looks like there is no chance of running a play by post game.


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The books look like they use the same cover artist as D&D 3.0 in 1999...

Also seems like the skirmish game with RP rules. Sounds a lot like Chainmail did back in the 70s. How retro can you get?

Also looks too fiddly. I hope it's successful (I've been a fan of FFG), but I don't know. It kinda turns me off.

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Wow, I am so skeptical. Looks like there is no chance of running a play by post game.

Sad to say, but given the status of digital piracy in this day and age, doing things like these may well be considered a viable option to protecting a company's sales.

Did a little more digging around on FFG's WFRP3 portion of their site, and it turns out the local FLGS will be doing a demo on the 14th. I may have to try and catch it, just to see how it plays. Probably still won't plunk down the money for it, as the folks that I know that enjoy playing WRFP are pretty devout 2e fans.

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Every time I see something on 3e, I think that FFG was developing a role play themed board game, and then acquired the WFRP license.

There just doesn't seem to be a natural evolution from 2e to 3e. Agree or disagree with the changes, at least going from 3.5 to 4e you can see where things came from.

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Whilst I love 2nd edition, I am very excited about 3rd aswell.

I have been reading all the info they have been posting and you don't have to use all the bits and pieces if you don't want but you get them all out of the box. Also they have a great mechanic for handling distances which negates the need for miniatures.

This looks more like it will play like traditional a roleplaying game and less like a boardgame than say 4E.

Don't get me wrong I really enjoy 4E but it is a tactical combat game with a RPG veneer.


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Wow.

Look...


I'll play it. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.





But this looks like a board game. [skeptically raised eyebrow]

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You know, there is a part of me that really thinks it could be a ton of fun, I just don't understand why you need so many complicated mechanics. It's really a matter of "don't fix what isn't broken." I don't think it's really necessary to be able to say "Oh, I passed that roll- but only because I was being reckless." I suppose I fall into the camp of 'I'll give it a shot,' but only because my local gaming store is holding free demos. I'd never buy it without knowing I really enjoy it first.

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I know I thought exactly the same thing when I first saw it. :)

Look at this brief snippit from their website as one of the things which has prompted me to be more optimisitic.

Abstract Measurements
One thing players will notice quickly about Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay is the lack of battlegrids or maps with squares. The game instead relies on broad terms used to describe ranges and distances. Rather than have a player’s attention focused on a grid or counting squares, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay uses more abstract means to represent position, distances, and ranges – letting the players focus on the action and the adventure.

The distance between two points – people, objects, or monsters – is defined by range categories. These range categories are used to determine how far a ranged attack can reach, how far apart two people are from each other, how much effort is needed to move between two places, and so on. The most common ranges are close, medium, long, and extreme range.

Close: Generally a matter of several paces between points. Many thrown weapons and firearms are most accurate at close range. Two people in close range can talk comfortably without raising their voice. If there are no obstacles or impairments, moving to another spot within close range is accomplished by performing a single movement manoeuvre.
Medium: Medium range is generally several dozen paces away. More reliable firearms can reach to medium range, as can crossbows. Two people in medium range of each other need to talk loudly to hear each other. Moving from close to medium range requires a bit more exertion.
Long: Long range is further than a few dozen paces. Longbows, Hochland long rifles and some spells can reach this far without too much trouble. Two people in long range of each other need to yell loudly to hear each other. Moving from medium to long range is more time consuming than moving between medium and close range.
Extreme: Extreme range is the farthest range at which two targets can interact. Two people at extreme range may not be able to hear each other even if they shout. Moving between long and extreme range can be time consuming and exerting. A few special ranged weapons can fire at targets at extreme range, but usually with a penalty.


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I have seen this demon spider web before...

It works great when there is one guy on each side, or when people stay together. But when you have 4 players, and 10 goblins, and they are all spread out... it turns into a record keeping mess, unless you find some kind of convenient arrangement to keep track of everyone's position. maybe with squares or even hexes...

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 Post subject: Re: Picture of the WHFP 3e box set
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Welcome AV Jax.

I am glad to see at least one person who is exited to see 3rd edition come around.

Your attitude will be a nice balance to those of us who are cautiously optimistic - at best.

I will say that I am deeply disapointed that halflings did not make it into the core rules.

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A V Jax wrote:
you don't have to use all the bits and pieces if you don't want


im honestly curious to see if this is true or weather the bits are infact nedded becuse of the way the rules are set up

the quality of the bits is very good looking

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Hi Guys.

(Love the Small but vicious podcast btw).

It would be great to hear your thoughts on third edition once in releases as if it is just a board game you will save me a bunch of money (I will go and play Descent).

I am optimistic though, I really love the fact that it is scaled out of the box for a smaller group. 4e is great but unless you have five players it can be a pain.

I understand the spider web can be a pain but from the looks of it this is where the compenents will help out if it gets confusing.

I don't understand why they chose the races they did two elves and no halflings seems strange but I never play halflings so it doesn't bother me that much. I am sure they will come out later in additional supplements.

I know people will say this is just a ploy to get more money but that's what business need to do if they are to stay in business espcially for none essential items like games.

Anyway look forward to all the episodes coming out on the d20 radio this week.

This is a great service you are all running.

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 Post subject: Re: Picture of the WHFP 3e box set
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im perfectly happy running either 1st or 2nd ed .
but i wont be forking out a single penny on this muck .if you want to play D&D play D&D ,if you want to play talisman then play talisman.but if you want to play warhammer then you better have a copy of 1st/2nd ed .

btw there is no need for a battle mat in warhammer ,i have the old floor plan set from the 80s and used them once then put them away .if you feel you really need some kinda floor plan buy an A4 file block for a £ .

id spend the money on say an elf book or some books on the other parts of the warhammer world.but no way im paying for something i don't even recognize as warhammer.iv been playing this game on and off since it first came out and this isn't wfrp in my eyes.it just looks like a load of really pointless ole over priced tat .

just say no to 3rd ed ppl :(

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